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Speaking on behalf of the [[bp:Save Our Voice Actors|Save Our Voice Actors]] campaign, I would like to address some issues which have recently cropped up.
Speaking on behalf of the [[bp:Save Our Voice Actors|Save Our Voice Actors]] campaign, I would like to address some issues which have recently cropped up.


The first and foremost concern is one which you can probably guess. Recently, an article appeared on [http://www.pokebeach.com/ PokéBeach] regarding the voice actor issue. If you think myself or any other SOVA member has not read the article, please rest assured that we have.
The first and foremost concern is one which you can probably guess. Recently, an article appeared on [http://www.pokebeach.com/ PokéBeach] regarding the voice actor issue. If you think that I or any other SOVA member have not read the article, please be rest assured that we have.


And before you ask, no, we are not planning to end the SOVA campaign based solely on the article. To fully understand why, you may need to know the details of an incident several months earlier in which [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/member.php?u=1238 WaterPokémonMaster] contacted me, and a conflict followed.
And before you ask, no, we are not planning to end the SOVA campaign based solely on the article. To fully understand why, you may need to know the details of an incident several months earlier in which [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/member.php?u=1238 WaterPokémonMaster] contacted me, and a conflict followed.
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I didn't want to blame WPM— and I still don't. However, I decided that what I heard from WPM was not concrete enough to end SOVA.
I didn't want to blame WPM— and I still don't. However, I decided that what I heard from WPM was not concrete enough to end SOVA.


WPM was furious upon hearing about this. He accused me of slandering his Web site when I did no such thing, and declared that I was clinging to false hopes since what he had given me was infallible truth. He demanded I put an end to SOVA, claiming I was causing trouble by continuing it onwards. His goals became very clear— for some reason, he was seeing shutting down SOVA as an equivalent of keeping his Web site reputation in tact, simply because I had doubts about what I had heard. The conflict was only resolved by WPM being banned on [[bp:Bulbagarden forums|Bulbagarden forums]] for a period of time.
WPM was furious upon hearing about this. He accused me of slandering his Web site when I did no such thing, and declared that I was clinging to false hopes since what he had given me was infallible truth. He demanded I put an end to SOVA, claiming I was causing trouble by continuing it onwards. His goals became very clear— for some reason, he was seeing shutting down SOVA as an equivalent of keeping his website reputation intact, simply because I had doubts about what I had heard. The conflict was only resolved by WPM being banned on [[bp:Bulbagarden forums|Bulbagarden forums]] for a period of time.


And now we come to recent events, in which two paragraphs in his article— which he again claims to be infallible truth —have spread like wildfire. In these paragraphs, he does not say that he heard any of this from one source— rather, that he heard several things from several very different sources, and this is what he has concluded must be the truth. This implies assumption. And as past events have shown, we know where WPM's bias lies.
And now we come to recent events, in which two paragraphs in his article— which he again claims to be infallible truth —have spread like wildfire. In these paragraphs, he does not say that he heard any of this from one source— rather, that he heard several things from several very different sources, and this is what he has concluded must be the truth. This implies assumption. And as past events have shown, we know where WPM's bias lies.
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To close things off, I'd like to address the effectiveness and goals of the SOVA campaign.
To close things off, I'd like to address the effectiveness and goals of the SOVA campaign.


I can recall prior to this issue discussing with my fellow members of the Bulbacast about how this unbelievably accepting the Pokémon fandom is. There's a reason Pokémon is ridiculed as a massive marketing scheme, and it's not because making gobs of money was [[bp:Satoshi Tajiri|Satoshi Tajiri]]'s original vision. The fandom gives us many great things — and many sub-par ones as well, which we love and accept as much as the rest. How many of you, despite your complaints about the [[bp:Johto|Johto]] anime season, sat through it and watched every episode?  How many of you, despite saying [[bp:Hey You, Pikachu!|Hey You, Pikachu!]] was a waste of money, bought the game when it came out and played it through completely? And, just to use an example from the Bulbacast discussion itself— if they spun [[bp:May|May]] off and gave her a cheesy, fluffy, eye-candy filler-stuffed shōjo series, how many of you would watch every episode of it, ''even if you hated May?''
I can recall prior to this issue discussing with my fellow members of the Bulbacast about how unbelievably accepting the Pokémon fandom is. There's a reason Pokémon is ridiculed as a massive marketing scheme, and it's not because making gobs of money was [[bp:Satoshi Tajiri|Satoshi Tajiri]]'s original vision. The fandom gives us many great things — and many sub-par ones as well, which we love and accept as much as the rest. How many of you, despite your complaints about the [[bp:Johto|Johto]] anime season, sat through it and watched every episode?  How many of you, despite saying [[bp:Hey You, Pikachu!|Hey You, Pikachu!]] was a waste of money, bought the game when it came out and played it through completely? And, just to use an example from the Bulbacast discussion itself— if they spun [[bp:May|May]] off and gave her a cheesy, fluffy, eye-candy filler-stuffed shōjo series, how many of you would watch every episode of it, ''even if you hated May?''


I can guarantee that the numbers are even higher than you might think. We've had a history of being very tolerant as a fandom, putting up with the good and the bad, and only complaining to ourselves about the parts that bothered us. When ''[[bp:The Legend of Thunder!|The Legend of Thunder!]]'' aired, eight or so letters were sent to 4Kids in a campaign because fans were upset with [[bp:Hun|Hun]] being cast as a woman— and in response, quote [[bp:Madeleine Blaustein|Maddie Blaustein]], 4Kids went out of its way to make sure [[bp:Harley|Harley]] was cast as successfully as possible. For our fandom, ''that'' was a very vocal feedback.
I can guarantee that the numbers are even higher than you might think. We've had a history of being very tolerant as a fandom, putting up with the good and the bad, and only complaining to ourselves about the parts that bothered us. When ''[[bp:The Legend of Thunder!|The Legend of Thunder!]]'' aired, eight or so letters were sent to 4Kids in a campaign because fans were upset with [[bp:Hun|Hun]] being cast as a woman— and in response, quote [[bp:Madeleine Blaustein|Maddie Blaustein]], 4Kids went out of its way to make sure [[bp:Harley|Harley]] was cast as successfully as possible. For our fandom, ''that'' was a very vocal feedback.


And now, if it hadn't been for us initially speaking out against the change, how many of you would have responded as vocally as you did when ''[[bp:The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon|The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon]]'' first aired? I'm quite certain the response would have been far more minimal— that many of you would have accepted it even if it was even worse —and I'm even more certain that the re-dub would not have occurred.
And now, if it hadn't been for us initially speaking out against the change, how many of you would have responded as vocally as you did when ''[[bp:The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon|The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon]]'' first aired? I'm quite certain the response would have been far more minimal— that many of you would have accepted it even if it had been worse —and I'm even more certain that the re-dub would not have occurred.


That is, in a way, one thing SOVA is trying to accomplish. We're simply not satisfied with the dub without the original voice actors, and unlike almost every other instance in the Pokémon fandom, we're going to make sure PUSA is aware of just how dissatisfied we are. If you have a problem with this, I apologize— but we're not planning on changing our feelings.
That is, in a way, one thing SOVA is trying to accomplish. We're simply not satisfied with the dub without the original voice actors, and unlike almost every other instance in the Pokémon fandom, we're going to make sure PUSA is aware of just how dissatisfied we are. If you have a problem with this, I apologize— but we're not planning on changing our feelings.
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